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Email from Chuck Shepard, owner of Hoodoo; to Greg Thorne  4/12/05 3:51pm

We have made a verbal agreement with the FS, but actually still have some things to work out. (This is a PS, I just found out that the FS put out a News Release about this, so now it is official although I still have this one topic to discuss with them and then will sign the contract) There is one item that has me concerned where in one instance I think that the fees are too high. It is tough dealing with the government. Sometimes certain rules make sense to them that don't to me as a businessman or as a former user of Terwilliger and other areas like this. It is easy to understand why anyone would be offended at the $5 fee. In fact this (the management of Terwilliger) has been brought to me over the last few years. In the preliminary talks I have not agreed in the past partially due to the $5 fee proposal. Now however, with the NWFP costing $5 and with them showing me their actual loss, I agreed with them that the fee seemed fair. It will still be hard for many to take and quite frankly if some just decide to not come because the fees are too high than the FS will lose Hoodoo as its partner. We only agreed to do this for one year and told them after this last ski season that we couldn't keep donating to the FS cause no matter how worthy. If people want to get rid of us in a friendly manner it will be easy, just don't show up for a year. We will leave. Our contract with them does have an automatic renewal, but we have an out if it doesn't make economic sense. If we decide to leave and if you would like to put together a group at that time to manage the springs, it is possible that I could give you some information that would help you, but you need to know that it is a lot more complicated than what you may now think. I am guessing that our paths may cross this summer and I will be glad to talk about this.
Thanks,
Chuck

 

Email from Chuck Shepard, owner of Hoodoo; to Greg Thorne  4/12/05 4:54pm

I am sorry to spend so much time on this, but you obviously think that it is important, so I trust that you don't mind my emails. Someone just faxed me the past Friends of Cougar Alerts. WOW! Now I am against this too. What you have envisioned is pretty scary to me too. I think that perhaps it might be a nice idea to meet one another and perhaps people could make a list of "demands" or rather reasonable suggestions. I can understand your train of thought about all of this, but you are out of touch with reality today. Did you ever wonder why in other areas the ski resorts have towns with them, but not in Oregon? There is a whole philosophy behind this that has to do with environmental concerns. There are a lot of ski areas around that would like to expand into real estate (I am not one of them and I would glad to explain why someday), but just because they want to does not mean that it can happen.
       Also did you ever wonder who started some of the environmental movements that exist today (I don't mean me personally) or who were the early contributors. While I have to admit that I am not very active from afar any more, I do feel that what I do through Hoodoo is important, just as important as what you do with the Friends of Cougar, and I have put my money where my mouth is too. I don't expect any awards or even any appreciation, but certainly these alerts are a little bit of a stretch. I know that I don't deserve this. I would be pleased if we could meet together and discuss how we can stop your negative vision from happening in our forest. (I believe that I have a high stake in this area as well. I am a fairly large contributor to the McKenzie Trust and certainly what I have done at Hoodoo ought to qualify me for something.) Let me know when you have time. I was hoping to go up to the area on Thursday or Friday. Also I would appreciate it if you would share our emails with your group.
Thanks,
Chuck

 

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